Have safe holidays and remember to give to those in need.
Thursday, December 30, 2010
Have safe holidays and remember to give to those in need.
Kato Mivule | December 22, 2010
Those who have been following Uganda's Evangelical Church news in Uganda could not fail to realize that Pastor Robert Kayanja of Rubaga Miracle Center has been on a Media blitz trying to “restore his reputation and image”.
From the holding of a Prayer Breakfast for Uganda's top politicians and press coverage of his wife's “Girl Power” conference, and rubbing shoulders with the Archbishop of York, Ssentamu, Pastor Robert Kayanja has undoubtedly been on a media blitz, doing PR to repair his image rather than that of Jesus Christ with whom there seems to be a large and widening contrast.
A few years ago a group of Ugandan Pastors reported to the Ugandan Police cases of boys who claimed they had been sexually molested by some of Uganda's mega church Pastors including Pastor Robert Kayanja. One of the Pastors, Grace Kitaka resigned, others, including Pastor Robert Kayanja vehemently denied the allegations.
The Ugandan Police claimed to have carried out investigations but made a turning surprise when they received large donation for housing renovations for the Police department from Pastor Robert Kayanja. The Police then accused the victims of sexual abuse of making false allegations and tainting the “image” of Pastor Robert Kayanja.
The young boys who had reported to their local Pastors that they were sexually abused, were instead hunted by police and arrested. The Pastors who had obeyed Ugandan laws by reporting the allegations of sexual abuse to police were in turn arrested, others are still fighting court cases in Ugandan courts of law. As of Ugandan media reports Pastor Solomon Male together with his lawyer were arrested by Ugandan Police personnel and accused of making false allegations against the “reputation” of Robert Kayanja.
What these Pastors, headed by Pastor Male had simply done was to bring the concerns and serious allegations of sexual abuse to Ugandan Authorities. Instead corruption and injustice ruled the day and the abused became the accused. This is one reason why the Ugandan Anti Homosexual Bill was strongly supported by Pastor Solomon Male and others who saw no way of escape and justice but rather blamed the Gay community for all the child sexual abuse cases in Uganda as a consequence and thus derailed their fight against Child Abuse and Sexual Molestation that continues to plague Uganda.
Yet this turn of events by Ugandan authorities arresting Pastor Male for simply reporting that young boys are being sexually molested is not only wrong and unjust but plain evil. Further still, arresting his lawyer only shows that justice in Uganda belongs to the select few, the powerful
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politicians in unholy matrimony with the clergy.
Uganda's Police painted a picture that it is not in their interest to protect the weak in society but rather their mission seems to be the protection of the powerful and well connected, no wonder Uganda still has to fight the “image” of being a banana republic.
Interesting and ironic is that the same government of Uganda that finds resources to protect the “image” of a powerful evangelical preacher is at the same time working hard to pass bills for the execution of gays in Uganda.
Ugandan authorities should have allowed for due process for those who alleged that Robert Kayanja sexually abused them. According to Ugandan Media reports, The Police claim that they could not find any evidence of anal penetration on the victims of sexual abuse and thus cleared Robert Kayanja on any wrong doing. Such claims are not only laughable but show how inept the Ugandan Police are.
Thousands of sexually abused victims do not necessarily have evidence of anal penetration. To look at anal penetration as the only evidence of sexual abuse shows total ignorance, ineptitude, naivety, and absurdity on part of the Ugandan Police. The sexual abuse allegations should have been taken more seriously and experts allowed into the investigation.
Yet even the arrest of Pastor Solomon Male's Lawyer, accusing him of filing a false affidavit on behalf of the sexually abused victims shows that the Police were bent of clearing Robert Kayanja's name and refurbishing his “image” at all costs.
Pastor Robert Kayanja might have momentarily succeeded in repainting his “image” but that image of Jesus Christ in the lives of many has been totally damaged...Pastor Robert Kayanja was more interested in his own “Image” than that of Jesus Christ. Even a local Church commission of inquiry into that matter could have shown some respect for the sexually abused victims and due process – at least according to New Testament teachings.
The “image” we have of Pastor Robert Kayanga now is one of an autocratic Pastor, friend of the powerful and corrupt African politicians, well connected and one with power to thwart justice at any cost.
The story of the fall of mega church preachers continues, from TBN's Paul Crouch, Bishop Eddie Long, Ted Haggard, DayStar's Marcus Lamb, among others, all with money and power...but scandals they cannot prevent.
Pastor Kayanja should have gone the route of Pastor Simon Kayiwa, who after being accused of witchcraft, human sacrifice, and devil worship submitted to a Church commission of inquiry into that matter, the commission later disagreed on the final report but cleared Pastor Kayiwa...instead Pastor Robert Kayanja has set his own precedent...and like the blind leading the blind, the ditch is not far away.
Sunday, December 26, 2010
Monday, March 15, 2010
Here is Oundos story just before I baptized him at the university swimming pool.
I am sure the battle for his soul continues every day as ex lovers covet him to return to his life of sin and promiscuity. But may God grant George and others a chance to repent and be saved.
I sometime think that it "it takes more faith to make a change of putting a black man as the president in the white house because you have to overcome many many years of racism and history. But it takes less faith for a man who is been sexually perveted to turn away and live in a normal and sexually pure lifestyle for the glory of God."
Here is the videos:
Friday, March 12, 2010
There are many lessons to learn from this story as told to my assitant Allen M.
I am Oundo George, 26.
I am a fresh creation, a chosen and appointed son of God. I have new loose masculine clothes, very humble and honest new friends. I belong to a more accepting family. Plus, I am a member of a church whose vision I am proud to associate with. I couldn’t have said the same during the past ten years.
Gender identity issues, ounded by Childhood molestation!
Raised in an extended family, I had both brothers and sisters but found myself closer to my sisters and other girls in the neighborhood. I loved babysitting, cooking, cleaning and singing; anything that girls liked too. I also had a number of dolls growing up. But then again, I didn’t like the girls in primary school and as Class Monitor, I canned the girls and spared the boys.
Still in Primary school, I had a good friend called Patrick who I slept with often and cuddled but don’t remember having any feelings for him. I was also caught in the school wash rooms with another boy and this is what raised my parents’ eye brows. However nothing much was done.
Early in my secondary life, I was molested by my dad’s accountant who I shared a bed with; an innocent plan made by my parents as Patrick (the accountant) was a visitor. Wanting me to become a Catholic Priest, my father took me to Jinja College, an all-boys high school. This was my firmest stepping stone. My obsession for cleanliness and neatness continued and I became known for making everyone’s bed in my dormitory. I also encountered other homosexuals and would escape from school with them every Saturday to meet older mentors at Speke Hotel, Kampala.
Mentored at the Night Clubs and a priest!
Homosexuality became my identity. By Senior Four, I had slept with several men, including Father X who later introduced me to Nick, my first white boyfriend. My name changed to Georgina and I had long painted nails, plaited hair, a bleached body and feminine clothes to go with it. My relationship with Nick didn’t last long though I had moved in with him. We cheated on each other and realizing it wasn’t going to work, Nick asked me to leave and he replaced me.
Repeat after me: The brain conditioning.
It was then that I went to Nairobi and enrolled in Human Rights along with Bible and Homosexuality certificate courses. These were to prepare me for the responsibilities I was to carry out. I started SMUG- Sexual Minorities Uganda, an umbrella organization incorporating all LGBTs – Lesbian, Gay, Bi-sexual, Transgender and Inter sex persons- in Uganda Other LGBTs included Spectrum Uganda, Freedom and Rome Uganda (FARUG), Ice Breakers Uganda, Integrated Fellowship Uganda led by Bishop Ssenyonjo. SMUG aimed at advocating for gay human rights and letting the public aware that homosexuality if African and a human right.
Building the Story-upwards: Recruit kids into homosexuality.
Here is OUNDO'S Video interview on NTV News
In 2005, we realized the need for a gay youth organization which we worked on forming with Sam. This was meant to further educate the youth about gay rights, gay dating and safe sex- using condoms and lubricants. Under Queer Youth Uganda, we scheduled a school outreach programme where all members had to go back to their former High Schools and spread the knowledge on gay rights, encouraging more young boys to join us. I knew that our programme would not be welcome in these schools so we used underground means. But positive results were noted. We also formed solidarity groups meant to get to the entire nation. Strategies were laid to make this happen.
By this time, the gay community in Uganda had become more out spoken and radical. The likes of Ps. Martin Ssempa and Hon. Nsaba Buturo left us no option. We knew that if we were to beat them, we had to get to their level and then surpass them. I was chosen to represent Uganda at the World Social Forum in Nairobi, 2007. This was a big step for me. But amidst all these activities, I wasn’t in touch with my family. I felt it had neglected me because of my sexuality.
2007 was a very busy year. I had a number of encounters with Ps. Martin Ssempa, our biggest rival. It hurt deeply to hear him say convicting remarks to us. Like most Africans he despised homosexuality and what we did so we held many meetings to devise means of his downfall. We approached different embassies and the government asking for help to shut down all Anti-Gay organizations because of their discriminatory tendencies. We crafted a plan to attack Ps. Martin as an individual against human rights and a Pastor whose message is of hatred, discrimination and bitterness. Of course we read the Bible so much and scrutinized it to know how to retaliate anytime he hit on us.
The fake it court case which was built on Solid Lies!
We also had a court case (LGBT Vs Government) and we accused the Kamuli C LC1 Chairman- Kireka, John Lubega of discrimination and misuse of office because he had arrested some gay members. I went ahead to get false witnesses to testify against him. Ps. Ssempa was here too and we saw it as a chance to show him how authoritative we were.
LET US MAKE SODOMY THE COMMONWEALTH OF CHOGM:
That same year, we sought for participation during CHOGM and got the support of the British Council and the Common Wealth NGO Forum. We were then invited for a talk on homosexuality by the Amakula Film Festival after it screened a Nigerian movie on homosexuality. I thought I moved the audience with my sensational talk about gender identity and sexual orientation.
Meanwhile, Ps. Martin was holding a rally against homosexuality at Kololo Airstrip. We sent our spies to disguise themselves as journalists and cover the event.
We spent a sleepless nights preparing a presentation to Prince Charles who was coming for the People’s Space at Hotel Africana the following day. We addressed the issue of same sex marriages being discriminated in Uganda and were appealing to Her Majesty the Queen to take the Penal Code, Sections 140- 148 (that were penalizing homosexuality) back to England. We agitated for the same rights as the gays in Britain have and for the event, we made placards that had comments like “Am gay, Mr. Straight Please Forgive Me”, “You Think Am Gay, So What?”and “SMUG Embraces CHOGM” However, our plans were frustrated by Ps. Ssempa’s presence again! We were not given chance to air out our views.
SLOWLY WAKING UP-BEING GAY IS A NIGHTMARE
At the beginning of this year, I got a strong feeling of sorrow, loneliness and discomfort about my life. I knew that despite all the money that the gay society offered me, all the knowledge on gay rights and the fulfilling work that I did, something was lacking. I also began to have a series of nightmares. In one dream I was dead and was surrounded by mourners. In another, there was a strong force pulling up and down and I woke up so tired and weakened, like I has been at war. These went on for a while and I was compelled to share my desire to go to church with a gay friend. He comforted me but was also disappointed at my desire to go to church.
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So stressed, I came to the White House with hopes of meeting Ps. Martin but I bounced and wasn’t able to get his mobile contact. So I went to Hon. Nsaba Buturo, the Minister of Ethics and Integrity and explained to him what I was going through. He is the one who called Ps. Martin and connected me to him. I must admit I felt very humbled and embarrassed to face the man I had confronted bitterly so many times, to apologize and ask for help. But I barely had to. Talking to him calmly for the first time, he embraced me, gave me shelter as I had nowhere else to go, clothing, food and a welcome that I hadn’t anticipated. Ps. Martin has a yearning to place everyone in his care exactly where God wants them to be. And that, he has done for me. I haven’t met a gentleman so loving. Even in the past, whenever he met us, he would want a handshake and would invite us to his church. I never saw it coming.
I have been gladly welcomed by Makerere Community Church; I already have mentors taking me through deliverance and believe that my future shines brighter now. I am learning how to pray and read the Bible, viewing it in the right perspective.
REMORSE AT THE LOST YEARS. MAYBE SOMEDAY..
However, I can’t help but feel like I’ve given away too much of life to doing wrong and I’ve lost so much. My family, a good education, respect from society and its going to be a challenge to start over. I had even thrown away my dream to babysit my own babies as I loved babies growing up. I now long to be a family man, a preacher of the gospel and a living example to all homosexuals still tied up in bondage.
A couple of nights ago, I dream't that I was standing before a huge crowd with Ps. Martin by my side, and I was telling a story. The crowd was so silent, listening to me. I believe I was testifying. And when the time is right, I am going to tell everyone of God’s delivering hand that picked me from a hole so deep.
Thursday, March 11, 2010
Just had an American and African dialogue with Dr. Michael Browns on his show...was a great time of discussing clearly what are the key issues concerning the debate I am posting here the summary of the interview highlighting the key issues. The show is available here.
1. Who are you?
Shared about my 24 years of expertise on fronline of Uganda's HIV/AIDS success. My education was also shared. Bachelors in Sociology, Masters of science in counseling, and a PhD in public health and service for my globally successful work on HIV/AIDS in Uganda.
2. What is the difference between American and Africa-
I shared our 5000 years of history as a civilization with Kingdoms and strong cultures handed down from father to son through families, clans, tribes and kingdoms. The youngest kingdom in Uganda is older than the American Republic. But we are opposed to homosexuality because
a. Because it breaks the LAW of our CULTURES and the teaching of our ancestors. It is a taboo.
b. It breaks the Law of our FAITH teaching..whether Christian or Moslem's.
c. It breaks it breaks the Law of NATURE where male goes with female.
d. It breaks the LAW of Uganda..penal code and constitution.
This is global clash of cultures..it is clash where the west is saying this is a human right, and African says it is A HUMAN VICE.
3. Why does Uganda need bill now.
a. International groups which are coersing homosexuality down our throats ie France and Netherlands at the UN.
b. Lack of protection for the boy child from homosexual rape.
c. Lack of protection for the girls and women in the current law. Only focus on male homosexuality.
d. Lack of legislation against promotion and conspiracies to promote homosexuality.
Note: We have learnt that now the Penal Code was amended to cater for the gender imbalance in b above.
4. What about the death penalty and aggravated defilement?
We do understand this to be about statutory rape of minors and the handicapped.
We have written as Uganda Joint Christian council to make sure that the death penalty is removed and sentences made less harsh.
Asked for inclusion of rehabilitation.
Recommend that aggravated defilement focuses on the defilement of minors or statury rape.
Give confidentiality to care providers.
The bill is really in draft stage and comments are being taken from all.
5. What don't you have a copy of the bill on your website?
First I am not the parliament..You can get a copy thru the parliament of Uganda.
Uganda's Internet has been very very hard and slow. I have just started having access to the
internet over the last couple of weeks due to new fiber-optic service connected to Uganda.
The bill with the parliament where you can get a copy through their website.
Not having much access in the past to internet..but I will upload a pdf version and our Uganda Joint Christian Council recommendations over the next couple of days.
6. Do you hate homosexuals? What would you do if they came to your church?
The deliberate spin of some pro-homosexual media is to try and make one hateful and monstrous.
On the countrary I think my church is the safest place for homosexuals to go and many come and are changed. In my worship team, my ushers and leaders I have former lesbians and homosexuals.
I have Paul Kagaba the former spokesperson for homosexuals in Uganda who is in my church. We are caring for Sandra a former lesbian who was thrown out by lesbians cause she got pregnant and they threw her out. We are also caring for another girl who got pregnant out of wedlock and no one would care for her and her baby.
You see I believe the church is like a school where we teach, a hospital where we treat the wounded, a temple were we worship and celebrate God, and finally it is also the fortress for soldiers of the Lord.
7. What about the four Americans who came to Uganda. Are they responsible for the bill?
Really that is an exaggeration intended to attack and make American Christians look bad. They came to teach on the gay agenda, counselling homosexual etc. I actually never even went to the conference. Bahati never attended his meetings at all.
No this is an African, home grown effort for Ugandans by Ugandans. This is democracy where leaders make laws for the people based on the will of the Ugandan people.
Finally this clash is a global clash of culture and ideology. Uganda is battle ground for the global clash on HIV/AIDS policies as well as the issue of homosexuality. The west including Obama\Hilarly Clinton\George Soros say it is a human right. But Africans say, it is a HUMAN VICE. This is not only in Uganda, it is in Kenya, in Malawi, in Senegal, in Nigeria etc. Dont blame the Rick Warren or Scott Lively. That is just divisive.
8. What words do you have for the American Church?
The major networks don't really tell the truth on the issue of homosexuality. They and the homosexual bloggers will seek to label the bill and Ugandans as extremists so as to scare off support and debate.
The hysterical response at the least more than hypocritical. In all of Uganda's history we dont have a homosexual who has ever been arrested and killed because of homosexuality. On the other hand every day more than 3000 babies are murdered with American peoples money in the abortion clinics which are in their backyards. The babies are punished not for what they have done, but JUST FOR WHO THEY ARE.
I do ask that God will use Uganda and what was called the dark continent to bring a re-awakening to the true teaching of the Bible on the issue of life and sexual purity. We can preach the message of God save the sinners without legitimating the life of sin and sexual anarchy.
8. Now that you are famous or infamous from Nightline show and this anti-homosexuality bill give a 30 second closing message to the Pastors.
The truth is more of my time is spent in church planting, preventing HIV/AIDS and helping the poor. However Nightline is not really interested in that side of the story.
I will however say that, "if the price for contending for the truth of the word of God is being wrongly misrepresented on Nightline, then I will gladly carry that cross. I would rather stand for God, my African culture and my family and be despised on Nightline, than win the favor of Larry King of CNN. Jesus warned us about not loving the world at the expense of His truth".
Wednesday, March 10, 2010
Anti-Homosexual Bill In Uganda Causes Global Uproar
The Proposed Bill Could Punish Homosexuals Who Marry With Life In Prison
By DAN HARRIS and KATIE HINMAN
March 10, 2010—
Standing onstage in black velvet robes, despite the stifling heat in the open-air church, Pastor Martin Ssempa's face is a mask of disgust.
"Anal licking!," he shouts, directing the crowd's attention to the images of hardcore gay pornography that he's projecting via his laptop. "That is what they are doing in the privacy of their bedrooms."
"Everything having to do with eating of poop&heterosexuals do not eat poop," Ssempa said. "And if they do, they are misguided, they are not real heterosexuals. We don't practice, that's an abomination. It's like sex with a dog, sex with a cow; it's evil."
SORRY NO ROSY QUEER EYE FOR THE STRAIGHT EYE PROPAGANDA HERE!
Homophobia In Uganda
Ssempa's animated style has made him one of the most popular preachers in the African nation of Uganda. But it's his virulent homophobia that's put him at the center of an international uproar. The pornographic images, which reduced some of the churchgoers to tears, were meant to whip up support for a bill under consideration in Uganda that would make some gays and lesbians eligible for the death penalty.
COMMENT: YES PEOPLE WEPT OUT TO GOD TO SAVE US FROM THE GREAT PUNISHMENT COMING ON THE EARTH WHEN THE SINS OF SODOM ARE PRACTICED. WE ARE BAFFLED HOW ANYONE CAN DEFEND THE ABOMINABLE? EZEKIEL 8.10 ..and He said to me "go and see the wicked abominations they are doing there"
The bill was introduced several months after a visit by several American evangelicals, who spoke at a conference called the "Seminar on Exposing the Homosexual Agenda."
One of them was Scott Lively, a pastor from Temecula, Calif., who believes that countries like Uganda can still protect themselves from what he sees as the scourge of the gay agenda.
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"These are good Christians; better Christians than there are here in the states," says Lively. "They care about each other. And I think the reason they're pushing so hard on this law is that they don't want to see what happened to our country happen over there."
He told the conference's audience, made up of teachers, social workers, and politicians that "even though the majority of homosexuals are not oriented towards young people, there's a significant number who are. And when they see a child from a broken home, it's like they have a flashing neon sign over their head."
Lively, who is the president of Defend the Family, is also the author of a book called "The Pink Swastika", which argues that the Nazi Party was a homosexual movement.
Uganda to Consider Passage of The Anti-Homosexuality Bill of 2009
"If you deny and reject the design of your own body," he told the conference, "and you engage in conduct that is self-evidentiary wrong and harmful to you, then you're going to receive in your body the penalty which is appropriate. Can anyone say AIDS?"
Also at the seminar were two American men who claim gays and lesbians can be healed, including Caleb Brundidge, a minister who says he lived as a gay man for ten years.
"I say that no one is born gay and anyone who wants to change can," said Brundidge, who works for the International Healing Foundation in Bowie, Md. "No one that has same sex attraction, they didn't choose to have that. I'm living proof. Change is possible. I changed from that lifestyle to the one I'm in now. That's not a gay lifestyle, it's a straight lifestyle."
Brundidge was joined by Don Schmierer, who serves on the board of Exodus International, another group that works with people who want to reverse their homosexual attractions. Schmierer declined to be interviewed by ABC News.
While there, the three American Christians also met with members of the Ugandan parliament.
NOTE: DONT BLAME THESE GUYS..THEY DONT EVEN KNOW WHO DAVID BAHATI IS. SO HILARY AND BILL CLINTON CAME TO UGANDA..DO WE BLAME THEM TOO?
Months later, a bill was introduced called The Anti-Homosexuality Bill of 2009.
The bill creates a new category of crime called "Aggravated Homosexuality," which calls for death by hanging for gays or lesbians who have sex with anyone under 18 and for so-called "serial offenders."
NOTE;HERE COMES THE SCARE THE MOTHERS! I AM ON RECORD TO MAKE SURE THAT PARENTS AND CARE GIVERS SHOULD NOT BE FORCED TO REPORT. I SUPPORT ASPECTS OF MANDATORY REPORTING ESPECIALLY IN CASES OF CHILD ABUSE.
The bill also calls for seven years in prison for "attempt to commit homosexuality," five years for landlords who knowingly house gays, three years for anyone, including parents, who fail to hand gay children over to the police within 24 hours and the extradition of gay Ugandans living abroad.
The bill's sponsor, David Bahati, now insists the death penalty only applies to homosexual pedophiles.
"The whole thing has been distorted, " he said. "And we know that some copies of the bill have been circulated on the Internet, which are incorrect."
Bahati defends the bill's stringency. "Well it can sound tough to some people but it's acceptable to our community here. Remember that here in Uganda, 95 percent of our population does not support homosexuality."
"But also we know that we live in a global family where in America they accept homosexuality as a human right. In Uganda we don't. In America, it is illegal to be a polygamist. Here in Uganda, it is cherished in some cultures. So that is the nature of the global family," he said.
"So things that are acceptable in some societies are not acceptable in others. But we have mutual respect. But this bill was proposed by Ugandans for Ugandans. We think it is good for us, we think it is good for Uganda."
VAL KALENDE AND HER FRIENDS ARE THE LEADING PARTY ANIMAL IN TOWN. THIS IS ALL POSTURING TO DRUM UP SYMPATHY.
Gay Ugandans Speak Out
Val Kalende, a lesbian, said it's dangerous just to walk down the street. "Just the other day a colleague of mine was detained and questioned by police," she said. "Every time you come back home safe, you thank God you are safe. But then you don't know what's going to happen the next day."
Kalende said that while Uganda has always been a homophobic country, things got worse after the conference the American evangelicals spoke at.
"So those guys should be held accountable for what is happening to us," she said. "And I hope that the people in America can hold these guys accountable for what is going to happen to us if this bill ever passes."
DONT BLAME AMERICANS..ITS AN AFRICAN THING!
Gay-rights groups and governments all over the world are up in arms over the proposed bill. President Obama has called it "odious", and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton made a call to the Ugandan president urging him to table it.
The American evangelicals who spoke at that event in Uganda back in March are now rushing to distance themselves from the bill.
"I do not agree with that bill at all," said Brundidge. "That's not why I went there at all."
Lively also claims he had no idea the bill was coming, and denies any responsibility for it, despite the fact that he compared his visit to Uganda to a nuclear bomb exploding.
"I'm proud of that, and I hope that the nuclear bomb spreads across the whole world, against the gay movement " he said. "Against this attempt to overthrow the family-based society and replace it with sexual anarchy. That's harmful to everyone. That doesn't mean I hate homosexuals. That doesn't mean I want everyone to be thrown in jail."
And he repudiated the notion that he empowered the Ugandan parliament to introduce the legislation. "Do you think that these people did not already have an opinion, a strong opinion, on homosexuality?" he asked. "It's a very racist perspective. It's the colonial mind-set all over again."
That's an argument echoed by the main proponents of the bill in Uganda.
"It's offensive to me," said Ssempa. "It's offensive to me that every time a black man does something good, you have to say that a white man told us to do it. That's really offensive to me. We feel that even those Americans who came here, they are wimps. And they have been blamed for this law. They've all screamed no, we have nothing to do with it. Why don't we accept that Africans can make an anti-homosexuality law? Why do you have to blame somebody else?"
The Blame Game
Among those caught in the blame game: American evangelical megastar Rick Warren, who was once a friend of Ssempa's, and who invited him to California to speak at his Saddleback Church.
Warren has since ended his relationship with Ssempa, and has also repudiated the bill, delivering this message to Ugandan pastors on YouTube.
"It is my role to correct lies, errors, and false reports when others associate my name with a law that I had nothing to do with, completely oppose and vigorously condemn," he said.
"I think that Rick Warren is misguided," said Ssempa. "I think he is typical of some American Christians who are petrified of homosexuals in America."
But the outrage in the West may mean the bill gets watered down or even killed. The Ugandan parliament will hold hearings on it later this month.
As for Lively, he says if they drop the death penalty, he'll actually endorse it. Whether the bill passes or not, the culture wars both at home and abroad promise to continue raging on.
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